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Martin July 8, , Maybe a carpool would be in order…. Gerard July 9, , 9: Captainawesome July 6, , 9: Sold my bike, a suzuki sv before I left california in It was fun, it gave me a thrill, especially riding around the winding roads in the bay area, and I could ride year round without a problem.
Goldeneer July 6, , 9: This will be one of the harder objects to get rid of as it will be an emotional decision for me. Mike Long July 6, , In my garage sits a Kawasaki KLR Yes, under 7 bucks a month for insurance. I live in an area where I can ride it year-round, so I do. When something breaks though these bikes have a reputation as being tanks — used by the military for over 2 decades — it is a 23 year old motorcycle after all , parts both new and used are cheap and plentiful on Ebay and elsewhere this bike was made unchanged from , and with only minor changes from present.
Working on the bike is something of a zen experience for me. After a difficult day of work, I can go into the garage and tend to it, which generally relaxes my mind and brings a smile to my face. It was cheap to buy, maintain and operate. But I do believe there is a way to minimize or eliminate most of that, leaving the best parts intact.
My well phrased comment went into the ether, but I agree. Someday I may write these thoughts again after I figure out how to lock the touch pad against the thumb. TallMike July 6, , 1: I think your situation is quite different for the reasons you give: Frugal Toque July 6, , 1: If my situation were like yours, I would definitely have kept the bike. Yeah, insurance companies have it rigged pretty badly around here.
I did enjoy some of the maintenance, mind you, tightening or changing a chain, oil changes, lamps, plugs and the like. Motorcycle repair is much more relaxing on account of the fact that you have a backup vehicle — usually. But, in the end, you can see the economic reasons for the differences in our decisions. RobDiesel July 8, , That saved me a fortune when I was young and had to pay insane car insurance rates.
When I moved to Denver, I stuck with bikes and kept the Volvo in the garage. There are places unlike Denver and Los Angeles where year-round riding and insurance will make it cost prohibitive. I still suspect that by not buying the latest and greatest, you can still use a motorcycle for very inexpensive commuting. A KLR is dirt cheap. The Kawasaki EX is another one that will last a lifetime with mere fork seals and oil changes. With cars getting better and better mileage, I think bikes may become toys to a larger degree save for lane splitting in California. BUT, again, if all things are equal, there is a huge amount of joy and feeling of freedom to straddle the bike and feel the wind over your shoulders.
Art Guy July 9, , 1: I had the same experience with 2 older bikes over the last 20 years. Let the ZRX go about a year ago after having 2 drivers on cell phones run red lites right as I was ready to cross, and that was enough. Enjoyed them but also happy not to have the extra stuff now. I recently sold 1 of my 4 bikes too, so I am getting leaner!
So far so good on biking to work. Less bugs in the the teeth compared to my motorbikes! Julie Sunday July 31, , 9: I totally agree, living in Austin my Honda Metropolitan is absolutely essential to my cost-saving. I get MPG and my commute to work is 8 minutes, about 2. My boyfriend has a Triumph Bonneville and we share the car; between the two of us, having the motos makes the cost of the car which after 4 years of ownership has less than 30k miles on it despite 2 xcountry road trips low and increases the length of time we will own it.
For Canada and the northern US, motos may not make sense but in the South they are brilliant. T Schmidt December 12, , Hmm, see I keep mine because it is just so much better on gas. I then realized that I may as well get it to pay for itself and rode it to my GFs house, a 56 mile round trip she needs to move! So I see it as a win for me at this point. Vik February 1, , 6: I ride year round and love it. If selling a motorcycle gives you bliss — awesome.
It would make me sad. I had a 5yr stretch with no moto. Frugal in DC July 6, , I have a very vivid image seared in my brain. I remember standing in front of all that stuff and thinking Never Again. Not only are McMansions black holes for money and time, they encourage overconsumption because hey, after all you have plenty of storage room. As I type this, the kids are going through old clothes and school things in their rooms to see what no longer fits and what can be donated.
Leslie July 6, , Best thing we ever did was downsize from a 3, square foot house to one half the size. I admit I wish the closets were bigger but when the house was built in few people owned pairs of shoes. They had 2 pairs, one for work and one for the rest of their activities. As consumer goods became more available at lower costs, the houses also got much bigger.
Being close enough to walk to work has also been a great boost to happiness. The weird thing is that some of our friends think we downsized because of financial problems but it was more about having less stuff. Stuff can own you more than you own it. Hi Leslie, funny that my story is so similar to yours! Downsized a couple of years ago from sq ft to sq ft family of four. The truth is, we now own our home outright and are planning on retiring very soon. Meanwhile, not buying expensive stuff means you get to keep your money. SQZ July 7, , 8: My first home was a small bungalow — 3 bedrooms and 1 full bath.
And yes, small closets. One-car garage yes, folks often had just ONE family car!! And it was just fine for them. I think a family can be just as happy in a smaller home as a McMansion. My house is from and has NO closets — not a one.
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Obviously, no garage either. Certainly makes you reflect on the way our lifestyles have changed, and forces me to think pretty hard about accumulating any stuff of any kind. I currently live in a sq ft condo and that is already too big. Mainly just interested in finally having a garage for my hobbies and a garden in the backyard, could care less about a big house. Man I wish they made sq ft homes with a 2 car garage.
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Walt July 8, , 6: Around here you can buy a 3 or 4 unit apartment building for not much more than a 4 bedroom house. Maybe buy one, ,live in the smallest unit, and build a garage? Amanda July 9, , 7: The main house is sq ft, the apartment is sq ft, and it has a 2 car garage. I live in the main house with a roommate and will probably rent out the apartment. It was a rare find and I am thrilled to have it moved in last week. While house hunting, I also kept an eye out for garages that could have an apartment built above.
We live in a cute sq ft, 2 bedroom house with a one car garage built in We bought it after a remodel and paid it off in 19 months. Easy to clean, cheap to maintain, furnish and keep heated and cooled. This is by choice as we own 6 other houses all but two of them larger. Must-stash July 8, , 7: Done by Forty July 6, , I completely agree that we need to get rid of a lot of stuff. We were planning on keeping both as they have a low cost of ownership, but still, they do cost money…. Debt Blag July 6, , This is so true.
I have never understood why so many people treat a budget as a suggested amount — which is to say that if they find themselves under it, they feel compelled to spend. The imagery works a lot better if the blades of the ceiling fan are serrated. Ree Klein July 6, , My partner is what I lovingly refer to as an otter…otters love to play and toys make playing more fun. The burden of insuring, registering, storing and maintaining all of those toys.
Snow White July 6, , To follow what Leslie and Frugal in DC said; we also sold our big house and are happily living in a home that is less than half the size of the big house. We used to have a cleaning service and now we can easily keep our home clean ourselves.
We looked around one day and figured out that we actually only used a fraction of our home and we made the decision to downsize and have not regretted it for a second. The large houses are a burden in terms of buying, insuring, furnishing, cleaning and of course heating and cooling. I can honestly say that I have rarely if ever regretted getting rid of something but I often regret purchases. Please keep bringing him back. GamingYourFinances July 6, , 1: Can I relate to this post!!! I also had a Honda VFR. It was an amazing touring bike.
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My wife and I rode it everywhere, even out to Boston and back for over a week. Frugal Toque, it ends up being a money pit. A financial ball and chain, dragging you down. Tutone July 6, , 2: Many years ago my parents gave me a pickup truck. It was an old beater Mazda with a camper shell. Having a third car for two drivers was nice. If either car ever broke down we always had a spare. I could go to Home Depot or the furniture store or wherever and not worry about how I would get my purchase home.
And the truck was free! But then I started doing the math. After owning the truck for about 5 years I finally came to my senses and sold it. Frugal Toque July 6, , 2: Jamesqf July 6, , 4: You see the problem here? Marcia July 7, , 7: My brother just told me this as we were visiting. Indeed a truck to haul stuff sometimes.
I remind them that it would be quite easy and enormously cheaper to rent an SUV for a week if we really needed the extra space for this one trip. Or of course we could always put a storage pod on top of the Accord, or a small trailer, etc. NearlyFI July 6, , This is pretty exciting to hear about so many on this path of liberation. My inspiration at the moment is coming from my year-old daughter who asked to switch her bedroom with another room in the house and spent the weekend massively and ruthlessly throwing out or donating instead of moving it to the new room!
With her work and my own, we have enough for a great yard sale cha-ching! Cat Alford BudgetBlonde July 7, , 4: My husband and I sold almost everything we owned and moved to the Caribbean. TravelBug July 7, , 4: Great post, and really valid for most of the population. My situation is a bit different when it comes to motorcycles, although I agree in principal with every word stated in the post.
I sold my car and decided to be a two-wheel commuter all year long, in the crappy Seattle drizzle. I have handy friends who help with any maintenance and repairs, or I do it myself when I can. Money Mustache July 7, , 7: It is true — with used motorcycles being so cheap to buy and experiencing negligible depreciation and fuel costs, these things can make great commuting tools. Scooters make you win for similar reasons: I did the least Mustachian version of motorcycling for my final one: And due to its performance orientation, it only got 45MPG, barely more than my 5-passenger Scion does now.
Jamesqf July 7, , You hit on one of the reasons I sold my last motorcycle: Mike Long July 8, , TravelBug July 9, , 5: Jamesqf July 9, , Aleks July 9, , Janson July 7, , 4: Like Travelbug, I dropped the car about 11 years ago and have used a motorcycle since. With three 40 liter bags on my Honda I can carry three cases of wine and the cheese to go with it, plus my girlfriend!
The Cambodia side was a nightmare, telling me could not take the bike in. They let me wait 3 hours with not much communication simply saying I could not take the bike in. It was getting later in the afternoon when the boss came to me and said I looked like an OK person so he would let me cross. But only if I allowed one of his men to ride my bike 2km into Cambodia and he would take me in his you beaut air con car to the bike???? I reluctantly agreed, that is what happened, no money changed hands and I rode to Stung Treng. I have a VN-plated bike 21 with a blue card.
I paid 30K kips on the Lao side and absolutely nothing on the VN side. The first man I met on the VN side asked me if I had money. I told him I had barely nothing. Then the passport guy stamped me without question. He was looking at my blue card and my Cambodia visa! Got back to my motorbike and drove to the fence. Seems to me that this border is loosening up. Safe travels all Cheers Jason. Hello can anyone tell me if nomad travel insurance will cover me for collision with a motorbike if I do not have an international drivers license?
You need a valid licence that is recognised in the country you are riding in. Some countries will accept your licence from back home, others require an International Drivers Permit. Just arrivied to laos via Tay Trang Motorbike cost — vnd But the motorbike was registered in Dien Bien province maybe thats why they let me thru.
He arranged everything, I kept my keys the whole time and he sorted out my ferry and bus through the border. Mo speaks excellent english and is a really nice guy. He also owns the restaurant at the small bus station in Stung Treng and my bike was waiting for me in the barn. If you walk up the main street of Don Det you come to a fork in the road, go left and his reaturant is the really beautiful one about 10m on your left. It works out cheaper to bike across the bottom of Laos across the Bolaven Plains totally worth the trip to the most southern border which takes you into Vietnam then you can travel down or so kms to the Cambodian border.
Me and my 2 friends used the service of Mo in January for entering Cambodia from Laos with our motorbikes. We decided to save time and to to go and try and waste a day on border. Bikes were waiting for us in Stung Treng busstation. It was fun adventure but money-wise expensive.
If you have time and you have done your homework by reading blogs about this bordercrossing then I would recommend to get multiple-entry visa for Vietnam and avoid this bordercrossing by taking roundtrip to Cambodia through Vietnam. You probably can save money and not waste your energy on hassling with smuglers or borderguard. I started to walk but they said I can go by moto to Lao side. They stamped my passport and I went away.
After 70 km I recalled, I need to come back to Vietnamese customs to make export papers but it was too late. I was stopped once by Lao police near Vientiane about 20km from the city, there are something like a mobile post on main roads around, they are checking everybody. Alternatively we could get another visa and drive back to north Vietnam, but it is an extra cost, that could be avoided we have 3 months single entry vietnam visa, that is sufficent enough to go through most of vietnam before. Meaning we could take bus or airplane from Cambodia to Vietnam…?
Hello guys , Just want to give you an update about the road conditions to the na meo border. We my girlfriend and i Just Drove this road yesterday , and its in perfect conditions, they Just finished the constructions , at the Laos side its still teriblle and it take s you about three to four hours to reach the first City with hotels and guesthouse Xam Nua. Ps Dien bien border tuy trang is still not possible with bike we found it out the hard way instead of reading some blogs before trying ; , Love your blog grtz Rianne and Martin.
Hi Great info thank you for your effort put up for us to read Is it possible to buy motorcycle for cheep price and ride one country and just leave it at border or sale it for cheep and go to next country and buy another on and keep repeating it. Just got bounced at the Huay Kon border between Thailand and Laos. Apparently it has something to do with the China.
So, I was told to try crossing directly into VT. A Thai office said it was possible on a bike bigger than cc. So, they suggested I try another border. Is there any problem with selling bikes with Cambodian plates in Vietnam? Hi guys, First of all thanks for that inspiring article. Do you think it might be a problem with a Motorbike from Thailand? We did find however that the facility at the crossing was empty but wide open when we reached it at lunchtime. Just a heads up. I tried bribery and all, and even after 2 hours of that and helpful Vietnamese immigration officers, I had my exit stamp voided and had to head back to Vietnam.
Does anyone have experience doing that? Can you tell me if Vietnam Dong is allright at the border, from Vietnam to Laos? I read it at one post, but only one. Should i get dollars, to be safe? And then do i need any passport Photo, for the visa? Me and my friends are planning to spend two to three weeks motopacking from Vietnam to Thailand I think the information in this blog is the best I have found so far for crossing the borders. Regarding timing do you think two to three weeks would be enough time to travel safe and make a few stops in between? Hey there, thank you for all the useful information, actually a friend and I wanted to buy a bike in Hanoi go all the way south enter Camboya continuing by Laos to finish our 6 month trip in Thailand my doubt was; what about the control on the Laos frontier to go to thailand?
Hey guys, great info! Just wondering if anyone knows anything about the Pa Hang border crossing between Vietnam and Laos? My boyfriend and I have a Vietnam plated honda win with blue card. Here, at the Vietnamese side the officer pointed to a bundle of money but we pretended not to understand what he wanted and after about 2 minutes he gave it up and gave us our passports. He road conditions are pretty bad on the Laos side though. Several parts are unpaved and under construction, we saw some trees and power poles laying on the road. We did about km on it and it never let us down.
We got a green ownership card for each bike and nothing more. What about this blue card everybody is talking about? We only had dong and we got to pay How about the police? Do we need to somehow change plates? I cant find any information about this anywhere. The blue card is the registration of the motorcycle, you should have got one when you bought the motorbike, in Thailand they call it green card.
When we crossed from Cambodia-Laos border they gave to us a customs import paper, green paper that cost 5USD, maybe they gonna ask for that if want to leave the country or maybe not… Check it out. Yesterday i crossed from Cambodia to Laos with a Vietnamese plated motorbike and i didnt have any problems. They required blue card. I felt that it doesnt depend of the mood of the people, seems to be regulated. I dont recommend to exchange money there. The rates in islands area are better. Good luck, good routes. Hi everyone, first of all thanks for all the useful info. We arrived to NaMeo at noon so we had to wait until After that it all went smoothly.
First we had our passports checked on vietnamese side and then we payed vnd for bike to customs guide. Another form was filled but noone looked on the bike again. And that was it. Road is great on the vietnamese side, not so much on the lao side. But the scenery is beautiful. Petrol stations are on the bost sides of the border,but gas seems to be cheaper on vnm side. There is accomodation available in NaMeo on vnm side. There is a seventh land border crossing between Vietnam and Laos, road 12 runs east from Thakhek straight to the border in km!
Loas side the roads are OK quality with negligible gradient variances, easy ride really, some slightly dodgy patches of road, but mostly sealed. Last fuel station 20km before border. Border gate took 1 minute to stamp out, can obtain VOA! Vietnam side roads really good condition, slightly steeper gradients, but noting too extreme! First fuel station 30km from border. Guard when crossing threshold wanted to check contents of my bag… Annoying due to bungees etc, but not invasive and no issues!
Scenery Vietnam side was stunning, yet I dare say I have barely scratched the surface! Today we tried to cross the border at houesei Laos to Thailand, but they refused. So no way to cross, we came back to Laos! Hi, Found the information on here really useful and so thought I would post my own experiences. We had a blue card not in our name and a vietnamese plated bike.
Could you maybe tell us how long that detour took approximately? Hello, sorry I forgot to mention above what valuable source of information this blog is during my motorcycle adventure. Thank you to everyone contributing!!! As mentioned by so many people, very straightforward and very helpful people at the border. The QL is in very good condition these days until the border.
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Did the vietnam to Laos border at Na Meo two days ago with a motorbike. It was very straight forward. Apparently you should buy Laos motorbike insurance near the border. Supposedly this is often in a building nearby. I did not know.
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Anyone have suggestions on how to buy it in laos? Roads on the Vietnam side are pretty good now except for a couple short gravel sections. Laos side is more exciting in terms of road quality but passable. Gas is available on either side of the border. Did they say you had to purchase insurance?? Thanks for the update!! I arrived at I also handed my bikes blue card with my passport.
Only registered it on the Laos side. To document for exporting. May now be a gypsy bike. I have a question regarding Laos to Thailand.
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Did they leave with their bikes? Can you get out without them? If I can make it to Thailand with my bike I will just dump it before my flight. Could someone tell me the best way to get liability insurance on a purchased motorcyle in Southeast Asia? Successfully crossed the border from Cambodia to Laos today! Brought in 2 cc bikes. After getting our exit and entry stamps had to pay 3 extra usd per passport we were asked to go back to Cambodia to get an import permit. The custom official first asked us to go back to the capital to get it arguing that it was illegal for us to drive a bike in Cambodia.
Happy to hear of a happy traveller! No one said a thing about out bikes even though they for sure saw us ride up on them. The Cambodian visa guys were very relaxed and friendly and told us what to do etc. What I would like to know is where to get our bike permits for crossing to Loas as we are planning to attempt it in about 3 weeks. Crossed the Cambodia to Laos border 2 days ago on a Cambodian registered bike Kawasaki D Tracker not in my name but with the reg card all done legally including issue of green import papers.
All they wanted was 1 dollar for this stamp 1 dollar for next and so on…. Successfully crossed the lao bao border from vietnam into laos today. Only paid 35 for my visa, nothing else. They did not even ask for the blue paper of my bike. Before that I unsuccessfully tried the two borders cha lo and cao treo. Maybe you could update your information based on the different experiences here. At the first thank a lot for this helpful thread and people who update information! My question is, that do anyone have recent information about crossing border from Vientiane to Thailand with vietnamese plated bike?
I have a blue card and this green paper from laos border but bike is not registered in my name, so could it still be possible to cross border? Friend of mine crossed this border one week ago. Same situation as you. This is what he sent to me on the facebook:. I made it today! Directly in Vientiane, they said they dont do it but it looks like they had a good mood. Thanks Dan for so fast reply!
Wohoo so i have still hope.
I update information after trying! Yeehaa border friendship bridge no. Everything went better than expected. Not any kind of hustling or necotiating. Just show passport, blue card and this green paper at couple of desk at Lao border and them let me go, no bad eye or anything like that. Officers wished me good luck and nice trip!
Took about hour from arriving Lao Border crossing center to departure from Thai border with stamped passport. So hoy think its possible to cross from Vientiane to Thailand with the bike? I am in the dame situation! Vietnamise plate, blue caes but not with my name on it. Hi Juan, Same situation than you. I want to cross my vietnamese plated motorbike with blue card not with my name on it into Thailand. Could you do it? No problem whatsoever but maybe because we crossed around lunch time. Then we just pushed the bikes to Cambodia, no one was in the custom stall to stop us.
And we lost our blue cards so it was kinda good that no one was there to stop us indeed! Even if you leave Laos as I did, passport stamp , and cross the bridge by yourself as I did , then you reach Thailand side of the bridge as I did and pass the Thai immigration control as I did, with the bike , then m down the line the customs will inform you that you are not allowed to proceed.
This means, you are stuck in Thailand, with a motorbike you cannot clear for customs. This is because one needs the blue card on his name or a proper notarized pack of documentation to inform customs that the bike is yours. Your post is unclear to me. It did not give us much courage but we did not give up and gave it a try.
We reached Lao side and got an exit stamp on our Visa. For this we had to pay something like Then we were asked for It definitely does not help anything as the police car leave you before you even reach thai side. So we got to thai side and went to immigration, we then were forwarded to some photocopy office, where they made us a copy of blue card with my passport, then we were forwarded to office number 17 I have no idea what is this office for and lady behind the counter give us some form to fill up.
We then went to immigration to get a entry stamp and we had to pay something like 80 THB which we did not have so we gave them all KIPs we had left. We then proceeded to customs. Fortunately the guy behind the counter was probably more nervous than we were. He obviously saw the blue card for the first time. Oh one more thing.. We had a big envelope with:. Thank you for all the helpful information! From where did you get the Laos insurance? I bought it in Phonsavan where is probably only one insurance office.
I think easiest way is to get to some big city and look for Allianz, Axa or another big insurance company then get there and explain them what you need. No police control so far. I hope, we will not need any mechanic assistance except changing oil and chain maintenance.
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But we have some km ahead though.. Next month I will be in Hanoi and I will try to change the blue card on my name. Should help too to cross the border. I hope that you have a police and mechanic free travel! The ONLY way you can change the blue card into your name is if you take the original owner whose name is on the card with you.
Hi Dan, have you guys made your way to Cambodia yet?? I will have blue card and will just be a standard cc scooter? Tried the other day an all they wanted to do was buy my bike at both ends. Everyone said no one ever gets in. Apparently it use to e ok 2 years ago so it might change. But for now a no go. Had to sell my bike in Don Det. Crossed Lao Bao — Dansavan with Viet motorbike, no problems at all, i got the Laos visa at the border. Just need blue paper.
Will it be possible to enter the country with the motorbike and then leave without it, or will the Laos immigration keep track that I had a bike and fine me if I leave without it? Thanks for the above details. No problems with any other police in Cambodia and I was waved through lots of check points even around Siem Reap where foreigners supposedly are not available to hire bikes…. You were waved through the checkpoints in Siem Reap because you already were on a bike.
This was done because they got tired of stupid farangs with little or no motorcycle experience who rented bikes locally and then killed or injured either locals or other farangs or, less regrettably, themselves. The law says nothing about foreigners who rent or purchase bikes elsewhere, even in Cambodia, and ride to Siem Reap. Thanks guys for the very helpful thread and info! Comes my time to share some updates: Arriving at the Lao fence they let me through and direct me to the immigration booth where I park. Thank you for your detailed report. Very useful to me. I guess not only for me. Have a safe journey!
One bike was our property the other one was rented in Phnom Penh. We did this in February and had zero problems. Bikes were both Honda XL dirt bikes. We just made it end of the afternoon, a little after 5PM, to the border on the Lao side. We already got our visa so after checking it he stamped us in and asked us if we had any money to exchange. BUT we were fucked on Nam Phao with a bike. Crossed from Vietnam to Cambodia Bavet and Cambodia to Vietnam Ha Tien without problems, didnt have to pay anything only the visa, that is 30, no 35!!
You guys seem not to mention the limitation of cc motorcycle can cross all those borders, for, if above cc motorcycles are not allowed in some of the countries Vietnam you are talking about. I live in Vietnam and own two cc motorcycles that are Vietnam-licensed. Last year I owned a cc Yamaha that had Cambodian plates and registration when I bought it. To legally ride a bike over cc, you have to have either a Vietnamese A2 license or a motorcycle license from your home country and an IDL.
I made it with my bike into Cambodia from Ha Tien without any extra fees or what so ever. They were very friendly! Hello, I am planning to cross the border in the South by the end of this month. The only documents I have is my passport and blue card but the bike is not registered on my name. Has anyone a recent information of which border will be the best? I was thinking of the Ha Thien. Thank you very much for this great website! So I hope this time it will be the same. I tried to cross the Laos to Cambodia border yesterday. And I get denied. I stayed at at the border about two hours trying to convince the guy to let new in but he was stubborn as hell.
I would even paid the bribe but never came up in our conversation. I got my Cambodian visa in Vientiane, Laos. So I tried to call embassy that granted me a visa, but no answer, then I called my embassy and nice lady with nice voice informed me that it is a Sunday: In the mean time I contacted ministry of tourism in Cambodia, and my embassy. They both offered to help. But so far no answer.
Does any one know if I need this power of attorney document? Laos officials let me go without the stamps to Cambodia border to see if I can get a motorcycle into Cambodia. I am pretty sure that the problem is your Vietnamese-plated bike. As I posted here I while ago, it seems to be no problem taking a Vietnamese bike from Cambodia into Lao, but a huge problem going the other way. Parked right in front of the officers, flashed a smile and went in.
The Cambodian side was just as easy. I think they thought it was funny a small girl was crossing a remote border by motorbike…. Hey guys, do you have any information on buying and riding a bike from India to Malaysia? We arrive in Goa on the 1st March and hope to travel for 8 months. I think Indian registered motor cycle have certain restrictions in Myanmar border.
But I am not sure. Double confirm with it first. Hi, do you have any information from your travels about crossing from India into and through Burma, and into Thailand? Crossed the Bo Y boarder from Vietnam to Laos today no problem. We parked up the bikes and walked to get the visa just to be extra careful, but zero issues either side. I planned to go on a road trip to Thailand, Vietnam, Laos and Cambodia. I have a motor bike under my name here in malaysia.
However we did just come across a blog of someone doing something similar, and was turned away at the Vietnam border. Everywhere else seemed to be ok though. Thailand Laos and Cambodia you will have no problem as long as bike in your name but Vietnam have restrictions on the size of bike allowed into there country,I believe the limit is cc. Bigger bikes are allowed but only with a special permit in a group. I did it in Dezember Bought our vietnamese Bikes in Hanoi and tried to cross in Dien Bien, it was impossible.
They just handed us a paper in bad english, which was supposed to explain why we cant cross. We then went to Na Meo and crossed to Laos without problems. Had to pay 20 USD for bringing in the bikes, but got all the stamps and custom papers. Yesterday we got message from a friend who tried to cross from laos to Cambodia with a vietnamese bike. He met some chinese on chinese bikes. They were able to cross, but one of them had to go to Pnom Phen first without his bike to finish all the required paper work and come back to the border gate to pick up his bike.
That is awesome Olli and Wooki! Thanks for the update! Definitely let us know how you go with riding in Thailand, dealing with police, what you end up doing about Myanmar, etc. Going the other way, as your friends learned the hard way, is challenging at best. I think that if you have paperwork showing that the bike has already been in Cambodia, you have a case that it should be allowed back in from Laos… though you are always subject to the whims of the border police.
As was reported here prior, DBP is a locals-only border crossing. You must have a plate from the area or you will be turned back. Before we left we enhanced the stay of our bikes, just went to the customs and got another 30 days. A friend of us from france got days for the bike when entering thailand.
Seems like therr are only two options, just ask for more, you might be lucky. After returning from myanmar we went back to laos. First tried in phu doo west of luang prabang which was not possible for us cause theres no visa on arrival available on the laotian side. We then went up to muang ngeun and had no problems to cross.
Had to pay 30 usd for the visa plus 10 kip overtime fee and 50 kip per bike for bringing them in. The customs official was a bit excited, seems like it was the first vietnamese bikes for him. Also fixing the bikes is more expensive there. Thanks so much for the updates.
Glad to hear things are getting easier with this. Found some kind of information brochure, which holds the following information on crossing into Thailand: The owner or a driver bringing a vehicle into the Kingdom of Thailand must observe all laws and regulations and provide the following documents: To avoid the border between Laos and Cambodia, we took a detour through Vietnam. Thanks for this awesome page, the infos helped us a lot. How about adding a small map von Southeastasia to this page and connecting the posts directly to the border crossings. It would help a lot if one is looking for infos on specific crossings.
Hello Olli and Jeongseok Kim! I have the same plan than you had ; crossing from Cambodia to Thailand with a vietnamese motorbike not registered on my name. It seems possible to cross the border but after in Thailand did you have any trouble, with police for instance? My plan is to sell it in Malaysia. Thank you very much for your answer! Hi guys, can you please specify, if the bikes were registered on your name?
Or was there a different name in the blue card? After being rallied through many people, who all wanted their fee, I politely told them no. We go back to Laos now, no more Vietnam for us. As for the Phonsovan crossing into Laos, both sides of the fence were awesome. Also, Plieku crossing, Laos into Cambodia, wonderful people, both sides.
I think we got a complimentary bottle of water. Every day of the week. Footnote- I have been riding motorcycles for 20 years in Australia. Synopsis — If you think you can do it, do it, but take your time at your own pace. I heard that you cannot take your motorbike into China. So anyone got news of the bordercross between laos and cambodia? Hello, yesterday finally made the bordercross between vietnam and laos at lao bao, no problem. I tried nam pheo and the one down south of it, it was a no-go.
I plan on spending months traveling and wanted to do most via motorbike before returning to Australia. I had a question with visas, how did you go obtaining your visas? There only valid for 15 days on entry in Vietnam, laos and cambodia? Did you apply for a longer term visa?
If anyone could give me some information it would be greatly appreciated. Thank you so much absolutely inspired! I live in Vietnam and always get three month visas with no problem. How you get one depends on your nationality. As for visas, Laos and Cambodia you can get 30 day visas on the border. We applied for a 90 day Vietnam visa in Cambodia, and extended it by another 90 days in Hanoi. Not sure if you can still do this or not. Thanks for the update John! And cheers for helping out with giving great information on this article. It is much appreciated by everyone, especially us.
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