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In the books his neutrality gets on my fucking nerves sometimes, but he gets involved in the games so im happy about that. They don't just care about the coin, it's all about earning a living. Beyond that, I think the morality of Witchers is "neutral" largely just because the mutations kill off most emotion. Besides, Geralt tries to pretend as if he's neutral but he isn't and can't be.
Fate's tied him to too many things for him to remain neutral on any matter. On this matter, though, I think it depends. I think he'd go purely for the chance to spoiler. I failed the quest where you have to brew swallow in white orchard, been regretting it still 80 hours later XD. I had a feeling something like that would happen. There's no way it'd end up well considering the warnings beforehand about how normal humans can't handle potions. My first playthrough was the same, and it was a double whammy because I felt like an idiot, thinking at the time I didn't have the ingredients.
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I figure, I'll find them eventually, so I'll do the quest then. Never crossed my mind to ask the freakin' herbalist quest giver if she had the ingredients needed. This response made me giggle, and is one of the reasons I keep arguing with myself to just complete it. Because you've gotten this far into the quest chain.
You have no idea what's going to happen with the Baron and his family once this is over. I couldn't help but feel sorry for the prick of misery once he realized what his actions brought upon him. That's the thing that gets me--in real life, I've heard many of the same arguments the Baron uses to justify what happened.
He never once took responsibility for his actions, only sought to shovel it off onto others even when I chose the dialog options that refused to let him do that. At least the game never, ever tries to make the Baron seem like his justifications are actually good. Geralt scoffs them off almost every time he makes them. The only reason he helps the Baron is because of Ciri. The reason I decided to go with the Baron was because I figured Geralt would want to try and get revenge on the Crones, just like he said he would want to.
As you continue to play this game you'll find that often not always , when you make a commitment to do something for someone, there is more than one way to accomplish your goal.
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Equally as often you'll find that not only do you have several avenues available to you to make good on your commitment but that you also have the option to disregard the commitment completely, if you so choose, and take a completely different route of action. The quest design and writing in this game is very good and rarely railroads the player's decisions and actions to a single outcome.
On a more personal note, this is a role-playing game and very arguably one of the best ever made. You will soon find that the decisions you make during your playthrough, both big and small, can and often will reemerge in the game at a later point. Very many of the actions you do or don't take will have consequences that will affect the rest of your gameplay, sometimes in very major ways.
Very often when you are faced with challenging moral dilemmas in this game that require you to make a choice you will find the outcome is rarely all positive or all negative. There is no inherent "good" or "bad" choices. Most often you will find that, no matter what choice you make, there will be unintended consequences. I encourage you to embrace the roleplay aspect of this game and to make decisions that align with your own personal moral and emotional compass so that, no matter what the eventual outcome, you can at least look back and say, "Well, I did what I believed was best.
That is, of course, unless you're roleplaying a specific mentality or worldview such as a destructive, violent character or a peaceful, nonviolent character. Thank you for your response. I'm definitely playing it as myself as Geralt, which is why I'm having such a hard time with this quest chain. I absolutely agree with you that this is one of the best role-playing games I've ever played, and I say that after playing through all of Dragon Age, Persona, and Mass Effect.
I'm incredibly attached to this world and these characters at this point which is impacting my ability to think my decisions through all the way as a rational gamer--I care too much about the people in the world, fictional though they are. My father was an abusive, alcoholic, child molesting, disgusting excuse for a human being who after being released from prison for nearly a decade last year, I cut him out of my life for good. I can relate to this and I can relate to you. Speaking for Geralt, the Baron helped Ciri, fed her, let her live there, and treated her well overall, so I think Geralt would feel that he owes it to the Baron to help him.
There's few things I think that can truly earn Geralt's gratitude but Ciri is one of them. Personally speaking, I felt pity for him. Yes, he was abusive, but you need to consider the situation from both sides. From the wife's side don't remember sides, sorry. Been a while the Baron was a disgusting abusive alcoholic and believed that he owned her.
He treated her like dirt and she needed out. From the daughter's perspective, the Baron was a terrible father who had split personalities depending on whether he was talking to the wife or her. Regardless of being her father or not, he beat her mother. Now from the Baron's perspective, the war is taking its toll on everyone, he leads people into battle and fights, himself , and has to witness and partake in an endless amount of death enemies and allies alike.
So, he drinks to distract himself and to satiate his clear addiction. Unfortunately, when he drinks he goes into blind rage easily that he is unable to control. From his perspective also, his wife was cheating on him unfortunately with his rage he responded a little too harshly to say the least and she tried to murder him which regardless of circumstances, if someone tries to stab me I would beat the shit out of them.
Also because the Baron isn't exactly the smartest man in the world, he didn't realize the effect that this had on his daughter. I ended up sympathizing with him. Yes, he did inexcusable things, but inside there was a man who genuinely cared about his family despite his rages. This is clear by how much regret he shows and expresses, along with Unsure if you've been through this or not yet: Along with End of quest: This is why the Bloody Baron is one of my favorite characters in the game.
He is incredibly deep with shitty read: He is very real and as such is one of the hardest characters to get a real solid opinion or even a grasp on him. The baron is clearly suffering from a hell of a lot of ptsd.
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It may not excuse his actions, but it helps to explain them. They say complete understanding leads to complete forgiveness. The more I understood the Baron, the harder it was to hate him. At least he was trying to be better. Unlike so many other awful people in the witcher. He beat his wife? The soldiers of the various armies are out there raping children and impaling their parents in front of them. Its a pretty awful world. I'd think I've done enough trotting all over the bloody place to find out where his wife and child got to. I can't remember exactly how much you'll have seen, and how much you know, of the Crones of Crookback Bog at this point in the storyline.
But let's just say they're a pretty good reason to consider it if you care about Anna's well-being. At least that's what I remember thinking at the time. I wasn't really doing it for the Baron himself. If his wife was in a safe and secure place, together with Tamara, it'd be a very different story, but I know the true nature of the crones at this point. I guess my feeling is that the crones are at least temporary Geralt mentions it would only be for a year in traditional fairy tale fashion , the Bloody Baron is potentially the rest of her life.
Then that can be the basis of your decision! I actually recommend playing the game however you like. Make your own judgments. I know it might sting to leave a quest unfinished, but if it's how you feel then it's how you feel. Speaking only for myself, I left a quest in this game unfinished at one point even though I was really curious about it, because it just felt wrong to complete it, from my personal standpoint.
So it's not some sin. The resolution to this particular quest chain is very well written and the game probably does expect you to go along with it, I will say that much, but at the same time if you figure Geralt might arrive at the conclusion to leave it be then it's perfectly fine to let that guide your course of action.
I helped because I couldn't 0lay the game knowing a let a poor, abused wife be abused by these beasts in a swamp. Getting the info that her daughter was going to help her, I figured she would take care of her mother. In the end, it worked out either way. That's the other side of the coin--though I suspect that she's going to meet up with her father in the swamp, and chaos ensues. Suppose I should go if only to keep them from killing each other. Mainly just for closure. Even if a story doesn't have a happy ending, that doesn't mean it's not worth seeing through to the end.
And who knows, maybe the ending will please you.
If you are not doing this for Baron, then do it for money and to prevent his men from certain death from the Crones. Well first of all she spoiler. What are you reading the spoilers for? Haha, I like to live dangerously! I did skip the spoiler someone posted for the end of the chain, so I'm going in with a clear mind. You're not just helping the Baron by going there - you're helping a whole heap of people.
First off, the madame in distress: Does Anna honestly seem to be in a good spot right now? Completely subservient to a trio of supernatural beings who hold no love for humans, and who shattered her already fragile mind? Granted, they're a pretty bad bunch individually, but they're also kind of the only group who can provide security for the people of Velen.
No, she doesn't, but it's temporary Geralt mentions it's only for a year as opposed to the rest of her life presumably what awaits her with the Baron. And the guardsmen are probably the biggest argument pro-helping at this point, if only to offer security to Velen.
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I had many reasons to do it. My main reason usually is I'm just curious to learn what is going to happen. But this is a game and in this fictional world it looks like the Baron is truly about to change, so depending on your views he might not be beyond redemption. I can't say more without spoiling. Thanks for not spoiling. It definitely seems like he's about to change, but from his dialogue I'm not getting any sense that he's actually making a permanent change--it's more a "Shit, I completely dicked this up, and I have to fix it at any cost," not "There are underlying and persistent issues that I need to address and continue to address the rest of my life", which is the actual reality of the situation.
Probably because both of them made fatal mistakes in their relationships. Baron with his drinking and Anna cuckolding him for 3 years. It spiralled out of control from there. Note that he hit her because she tried to take his life multiple times. He killed the man she was cheating with cold fury. Probably because he still loves her. Met people like this irl minus the hitting part. Its hard to let go especially because they already have a kid. Not sure about you, but Geralt of Rivia would help him only because he helped Ciri, not because Geralt would want the family back together, but a favor for a good deed for his step-daughter, nothing more.
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I'd imagine he helped enough with the rest of the questline up to this point--the Baron asks for Geralt's help as a favor, not as an exchange like it was previously in the quest. Though I suppose that was equally compensated by the exchange of information, and Geralt still owes a debt? Entertaining, a puzzle set in a place and time I adore. It also has the added benefit of being written in the '50's, so sparing readers the tiresome conventions of more recent authors in this vein: Grandmothers around the world will be happy to discover or rediscover an enormously prolific author with creative plots, a smattering of violence, 4 stars mainly because it's very good at being what it's supposed to be and doing what it should do.
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